The Marxist Don Declares War on Patriots

Crime, Education, Politics, Terrorism, Violence

It seems the Marxist messiah routinely demonstrates that he is Anti-America and hell bent on using his liberal Chicago mafia to remake America in his Marxist image. There is no question that Franklin Davis, an admitted Communist that hated “capitalist white America”, embedded his Marxist ideology into the young Kenyan student. He then sent him off to Chicago to study the methods of Saul Alinsky and the Chicago political mob. He perfected his Marxist rhetoric of economic and social justice. He ascended the presidency under the guise of a “new and transparent” administration. But it was all lies. His commonality with our ideological enemies reveals the indoctrination of his youth.

The Chicago don promised the American people protection and security. That was another lie.
After promising “not” conduct investigation into the use of enhanced interrogation tactics on terrorist to gather information that kept this country safe for eight years he has capitulated to the lunatic left. Instead of investigating “Real Crimes” he has ordered his Justice Department to conduct an ideological witch hunt against patriotic Americans.

The Marxist mafia don and his lieutenant, A.G. Eric Holder have appointed federal prosecutor John Durham to investigate CIA interrogators for “torture” of terrorist in 2002 and 2003, even after, as Sen. Lieberman noted, “Career prosecutors in the Justice Department have previously reviewed allegations of abuse and concluded that prosecution was not warranted.” Some of these “so-called” torture tactics include threatening with a gun or drill, mock executions and blowing cigar smoke into a terrorist face.

Instead of declaring war on Patriots the Chicago don-in-chief should order Holder to appoint federal investigators to investigate real crimes that are costing taxpayers billions of dollars. Here are a few suggestions. Reinstate the charges against former Gov. Bill Richardson (D-NM) for his illegal Chicago style pay-to-play schemes. Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA) should be investigated for accepting $40K from the failing Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae while being romantically involved with Fannie Mae executive Herb Moses. Investigate Franklin Raines, Fannie Mae executive and obama advisor, for cooking the books to make it appear the quasi government institution was solvent in order to support paying obama team members Raines $100 million, Jim Johnson $25 million and Jamie Gorelick $75 million.

Investigate Sen. Chris Dodd (D-CT) for pushing the amendment to obama’s spending bill that allowed millions of dollars in bonuses to AIG executives and failing to report his wife Jackie Clegg Dodd served as an “outside” director of IPC Holdings, Ltd., a Bermuda-based company controlled by AIG. Prosecute Dodd for his illegal loans with Countrywide and Rep. Charlie Rangel (D-NY) for his fraudulent land deals in Bermuda and his tax evasion of as much as $1.3 million in income.

How about investigating the involvement of Rep. William Jefferson (D-LA), Rep. Charlie Rangel (D-NY), Democrat Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick and State Senator Dianne Wilkerson (D-MA) in massive corruption scandals involving cash, sex, abuse of public office and embezzlement of millions of dollars at Democrat satellite offices of ACORN and the SEIU. Or probe former senator and obama health care czar Tom Daschle (D-SD) and his airline lobbyist wife’s income from government contracts for faulty x-ray screens sold to the airline industry. Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV) should be investigated for illegal land deals, using tax dollar to build a bridge to nowhere to enhance the value of his property and forcing local officials to rezone his property. Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), Rep. Rahm Emanuel (D-IL) now obama Chief of Staff and Sen. Evan Bayh (D-IN) should be investigated for filing false reports regarding financial disclosures and leadership roles in foundations funded and controlled by the lawmakers.

Clueless Juan Williams attempted to support the Marxist mafia’s investigation of patriots by claiming this is a “Nation of Laws” on Fox Sunday with Chris Wallace (08/30/09). Now he is concerned about laws? It was a lame attempt to deflect focus from the core issues. Obama is a radical Marxist and Anti-America. His team is peppered with Marxist, Communist and terrorist sympathizers. Eric Holder was a key player in Clinton’s pardon of Marc Rich, who conducted business with Iran while it held the US hostages, and was instrumental in Clinton’s pardons of the FALN terrorist and members of the Weather Underground (Ayer’s group). He appointed avowed Communist and Black Nationalist Van as the green job czar. V.P. Biden has received significant campaign contributions from Iranian and Islamic charities seeking to end the U.S. trade embargo on Iran.

No wonder it is easy for obama to declare war on American Patriots!

George A. Torres, Jr George Torres

59 Comments

  1. Jerry Saxz  •  Sep 2, 2009 @5:21 pm

    Let’s see here Georgy, we should just allow the CIA to do whatever it is they want. Is that it? And here I was all the while, believing that you believed in the Constitution; a Constitution of law and order. By the way, aren’t you a law enforcement type? One committed to uphold the law?

    Jerry Saxz
    Ohio

  2. Wally  •  Sep 2, 2009 @5:23 pm

    George, Sir, for every Democrat you name who should be investigated, I could name one Republican. Do you believe your republican friends are immune from corruption? Check again. Perhaps you are too blinded by ideology.

    Wally
    DeRidder, LA

  3. Selwyn Nurse  •  Sep 2, 2009 @5:25 pm

    Obama shouldl go ahead with their investigation of the CIA. After all, three psycho Al-Qaeda terrorists were waterboarded by intelligence officers. And, because they were waterboarded the evil Bush regime was able to prevent another 9-11 style attack on Los Angeles that saved thousands of US lives. Yeah…..right.

    These officials must be punished!

    Selwyn Nurse
    Washington, DC

  4. Donald Sonney  •  Sep 2, 2009 @5:38 pm

    George, we must remain mindful that we still are very much a nation at war with terrorists who spend every hour of their day planning how to hurt America and Americans. That’s why Obama directing Holder to investigate the men and women tasked with keeping America safe is such a poor and misguided decision. Stay on the ball, George.

    Donald Sonny
    Ogden, Utah

  5. Tony W  •  Sep 2, 2009 @5:42 pm

    George, it’ll bomb, like everything else Obama does. Here are some of the so-called crimes committed by the interrogators:

    1. They told Khaled Sheik Mohammed that if there was another terrorist attack, they’d murder his family. They didn’t murder his family or even intend to. It was a ruse.

    2. They brought a power drill into an interrogation and played with it to make the detainee think they might use it on him. They didn’t use it on him.

    3. They pretended to shoot another detainee, which made the detainee in question begin singing.

    Good luck trying to convince the electorate that these are “war crimes,” Obama, especially since the same CIA Inspector General’s report proves that using these ruses saved American lives and allowed us to foil several terrorist attacks.

    Tony W

  6. Crystal Bally  •  Sep 2, 2009 @5:45 pm

    Several years ago, career professionals at the DOJ decided the facts did not support prosecuting America’s intelligence professionals based on the practices at issue today. Now, the administration risks chilling our defense and intelligence community’s ability to protect us from future terrorist attacks by reopening this matter. I cannot wait for 2010.

    Crystal Bally

  7. I.M. Marshall  •  Sep 2, 2009 @5:49 pm

    They ignore the black panthers and do this. Despicable.

    I.M. Marshall

  8. William Bronson  •  Sep 2, 2009 @5:51 pm

    Can’t wait until we get the Joker’s crime family on trial. If that’s the game, then let’s get it on.

    William Bronson
    Des Moines

  9. Joanne Smith  •  Sep 2, 2009 @5:52 pm

    Don’t worry, they are going to strip the CIA of all its powers - the democrats must be feeling the intelligence squeeze and are starting to be afraid, very afraid. Does anyone think Obama actually wants an intelligence agency which he doesn’t control, probably do not support him, and know too much?

    Joanne Smith

  10. Jennifer Cox  •  Sep 2, 2009 @5:55 pm

    It’s just a distraction…a much needed distraction. O and the Dems are losing on health care. His numbers are going down, down, down. He wants to get his hard left loonies back on board and distract the real Americans who are opposing him. If he destroys our intelligence community while he’s at it so much the better. There has to be a daily or weekly manufactured crisis per the Alinsky’s rule book to keep everyone off balance…as you mentioned, George. I’m sure he and Rahm went into conference and decided they needed a change up pitch and this was it. Of course its despicable, hasn’t every move he’s made been despicable and of course no one knows how far he’ll take it, as far as it benefits him I suppose. The evil empire of O and the Democrat congress must be thrown out.

    Jennifer Cox
    Newburgh, NY

  11. Benson  •  Sep 2, 2009 @5:57 pm

    George, if they didn’t do anything illegal then they have nothing to worry about. Which explains why defenders of the Bush administration such as yourselves are worried.

    Benson

  12. Mary Beth  •  Sep 2, 2009 @5:58 pm

    George, I don’t remember who said this originally…but it’s so true.

    “All of Barack Obama’s lofty promises have an expiration date. All of them”.

    Mary Beth

  13. Shannon Sprott  •  Sep 2, 2009 @6:00 pm

    Remember folks for 2010 and 2012, the slogan is simple:

    DEMOCRATS AND LIBERALS CARE MORE FOR THE LIVES OF AL-QUEDA THEN THE AMERICAN SOLDIER.

    Shannon Sprott
    Manhattan, NY

  14. Kelly Klaarck  •  Sep 2, 2009 @6:01 pm

    keep your eye on the ball. socialized medicine is the issue now.

    The CIA people can take care of themselves.;if they cannot, then they aren’t the group we thought they were.

    Kelly Klaarck

  15. Chrisopher Camp  •  Sep 2, 2009 @6:03 pm

    “If they didn’t do anything illegal then they have nothing to worry about. Which explains why defenders of the Bush administration are worried”.

    You had better thank your lucky stars that you had President Bush and his interrogators there to protect your ass buddy. The people that were “tortured” would cut your head off in front of your children and then rape your wife if your pussy liberal ass even has a family.

    Go stick your finger in a power outlet and end your misery.

    Christopher Camp
    Boise, Idaho

  16. Sally Naz  •  Sep 2, 2009 @6:05 pm

    George, it was just announced that the CIA will no longer interrogate terrorists, and interrogation will be under an FBI agent and the Whitehouse. Dear Lord, Obama is taking over.

    Sally Naz

  17. Christopher  •  Sep 2, 2009 @6:07 pm

    Also, we should thank the Bush admin for saving all of those who were targeted in the airliner bombing plot from several years ago. ya know the one where some asshole terroists would blow up airliners over the ocean.

    Do you think Obama can ever claim a victory such as this? I don’t think so.

    Christopher
    Boise, Idaho

  18. Jimena  •  Sep 2, 2009 @6:12 pm

    Some idiot wrote, “If they didn’t do anything illegal then they have nothing to worry about. Which explains why defenders of the Bush administration are worried”.

    they didn’t..

    they don’t..

    i’m not..

    and while i can’t speak for others,
    don’t believe anyone else is either..

    BRING IT ON DEAR ISLAMARXIST LEADER..

    it’s not going to divert our focus off of your rampant
    take over & destruction of America agenda one iota..

    get a piece of his ass, george torres.

    Jimena

  19. Mary Wrenn  •  Sep 2, 2009 @6:16 pm

    All of you on this blog (except for one or two) are a bunch of idiots. Here you have a bunch of yahoos breaking the law, practicing their redneck tactics on innocent people (innocent until found guilty anyone?) and you are supporting this archaic behavior? Shame on all of you.

    Mary Wrenn

  20. George  •  Sep 3, 2009 @5:32 am

    Wally… name them and I would support investigations into their alleged illegal behavior - prosecuted and if found guilty sentenced to prison…. that is the difference between liberals and conservatives

  21. George  •  Sep 3, 2009 @5:39 am

    Benson… put down the Kool Aid and try a little critical thinking skills… the mere fact they are re-investigating non-existent criminal conduct of terrorist combatents to gain information to keep your dumb ass safe is the issue is destroying the agency tasked to keep your dumb ass safe… and allow you the freedom to express your stupidity… isn’t American wonderful for you? :o

  22. George  •  Sep 3, 2009 @5:41 am

    Mary… Are you from San Francisco? It sounds like it.

  23. Benson  •  Sep 3, 2009 @1:47 pm

    George, are you calling the waterboarding of prisoners in excess of Justice Department guidelines, and the deaths of detainees in CIA custody in Afghanistan and Iraq irrelevant? Wow!!! Who is on Kool Aid now?

    Benson

  24. Mary  •  Sep 3, 2009 @1:52 pm

    Yes George, I am indeed from San Francisco and proud to be from there. But the fact remains: it’s about war crimes, quite beyond politics.

    And the Hague will pick up where Holder leaves off. Count on it. Spain is already moving ahead.

    The rule of law trumps everything written here today. Why is it so difficult for you to comprehend something so simple yet so serious?

    Mary
    San Francisco

  25. Immanuel Siegel  •  Sep 3, 2009 @2:34 pm

    George, what are you blathering about? This is about harsh interrogations by the CIA, not “war crimes.”

    War crimes are committed by the armed forces. Holder is going to investigate 10-12 illegal interrogations conducted by the CIA.

    Got lost in the orgasmic, self-indulgent melodrama of it all, huh?

    Immanuel Siegel
    Brooklyn

  26. Bill Forrest  •  Sep 3, 2009 @2:40 pm

    All I read here is excuse after excuse to set aside the rule of law. The law is the law. Prosecute them if found guilty…which they are.

    Bill Forrest

  27. Cara Call  •  Sep 3, 2009 @2:44 pm

    Blackwater is an illegally constituted crusader army who will also soon being seeing jail time. Rumsfeld prepared pretty christian pop-up memos for W to reinforce the fact we are on a crusade, most of us against our will.

    I think jail is the only thing that is going to wake some of you up.

    Not all, not by far, but maybe enough of you need to quit yer bitching, and come back to law and order.

    Cara Call

  28. Orlando Jimenez  •  Sep 3, 2009 @2:51 pm

    why are the republicans affaird of the justice dept. investagating the president
    cheanys polices? PRESIDENT CHEANY AND THE CHEER LEADER WOULD BE PROSECUTED FOR WAR CRIMES AND MUCH MORE. I SAY LETS DO IT. IT IS LONG OVER DO.

    Orlando Jimenez
    Rota, Spain

  29. Kenny  •  Sep 3, 2009 @2:52 pm

    Remember, George you don’t neccesarily get truth from extreme torture. Esspecially if you are telling the detainee what you want him to say. And that is exactly how the 9-11 confessions were obtained.

    Kenny

  30. ERIC  •  Sep 3, 2009 @9:27 pm

    Funny…

    Cara…Blackwater, under its new name Xe is still employed by the State Department of the Billary Clinton of the OBObama administration! LOL

  31. ERIC  •  Sep 3, 2009 @9:31 pm

    Also, the OBObama administration is still using the Extreme rendition system, domerstic surveillance programs Eric Holder went to defend at Congress…etc…

  32. ERIC  •  Sep 3, 2009 @9:34 pm

    Instead of re-investigating actions that had been legalized by the DOJ of the previous administration, and based on old memos the bi partisan intelligence committee was aware of, the A.G should Instead ask and answer some basic questions Were the “enhanced interrogation techniques” legal? Did Congress know? Were they applied correctly? Were there abuses? Are we compliant with the Geneva’s convention’s description of a combatant and of a prisoner of war (chapt 4, http://www.genevaconventions.org/)

    Let’s have the investigation and expose all the Democrats that have known and supported the techniques for the past 8 years…Pelois…dig a hole…they are coming after you! lol

  33. ERIC  •  Sep 3, 2009 @9:35 pm

    Water boarding, sleep deprivation and various other humiliations are standard practices for Evasion and Escape training for Special Forces (E&E). So is it torture when they are applied on our soldiers as part of a training? Should we just keep on doing it to the bad guy and deliver them E&E certificate of training completion and get done with it?

  34. Enigma  •  Sep 3, 2009 @9:35 pm

    http://www.fresnobee.com/384/story/1625504.html

    Insanity! Elderly man’s finger bitten off at California health reform protest regarding Obama health care

    Part of finger bitten off at Calif. health protest

    LOS ANGELES — One man bit off part of another man’s finger when a health care reform demonstration turned violent.
    William Rice said doctors did not reattach the bitten-off part of his left pinky after he got in the middle of a Southern California rally Wednesday night that he said was “very scary.”
    “I didn’t go out to demonstrate my beliefs, I happened to be driving by and I stopped to ask people what their purpose was,” Rice, 65, said in a telephone interview Thursday. “I had no signs, I was not part of the demonstration.”
    About 100 demonstrators in favor of health care reform had gathered on a Thousand Oaks street corner for an event organized by MoveOn.org. About 25 counterdemonstrators gathered across the street.
    Rice declined to say Thursday which side of the debate he falls on.
    Ventura County sheriff’s spokesman Eric Buschow said a confrontation erupted after the biter crossed from the MoveOn.org side of the street to the counterprotest, where Rice was standing.
    A loud scuffle ensued, punches were thrown, and the tip of Rice’s finger was bitten off, Buschow said.
    The biter fled before authorities arrived. He could face felony mayhem charges.
    “We don’t know the identity of the man who bit the finger off,” Buschow said. “We want to contact him and get his side of the story.”
    Buschow said authorities are piecing together the events from witness interviews.
    There are conflicting accounts of who started the fight, Buschow said. “There’s a question about blurring the line between self-defense and who the primary aggressor was,” he said.
    Rice was treated at Los Robles Hospital and Medical Center. The top joint of his pinky, including his whole fingernail, was severed, hospital spokeswoman Kris Carraway-Bowman said.
    She said his treatment was covered by Medicare.
    Rice said he and his attacker did not have a conversation about health care unless “you want to call him screaming in my face that I’m an idiot a conversation.”
    MoveOn.org spokeswoman Ilyse Hogue said in a written statement that the incident is a “regrettable act of violence” but the group had few facts about the situation.
    The group is in favor of health care reform that includes a “public option” providing government-sponsored insurance.
    Scuffles and noisy protests over the proposed health care overhaul have broken out at recent town hall meetings hosted by members of Congress across the country.

  35. ERIC  •  Sep 3, 2009 @9:36 pm

    Finally, enemy combattants that become POWs have rights has defined by the Geneva convention.
    They also have duties defined by the same convention…grow a brain and go read the convention and only after, come and lecture me on what crime is:

    You should read the Geneva Convention and when you read it (you will be one of the few), spend time on chapter 4 that describes what a combattant is and what rules one must follow in order to become a protected prisoner of war (POW). Where do you fit our enemies in the following statement: “Members of other militias (…) must fulfil the following conditions (-to be considered POW-):[ (a) that of being commanded by a person responsible for his subordinates; (b) that of having a fixed distinctive sign recognizable at a distance; (c) that of carrying arms openly; (d) that of conducting their operations in accordance with the laws and customs of war”. Don’t take my word for it, go and check it out, educate yourself because knowledge is power! (http://www.genevaconventions.org/ ).

  36. ERIC  •  Sep 3, 2009 @9:37 pm

    Going back to sleep…have a good life!

  37. Enigma  •  Sep 4, 2009 @2:51 pm

    Happy Labor Day everyone

    Unemployment rate jumps to 9.7 percent
    Employers eliminated a total of 216,000 jobs, the lowest in a year

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32689068

    Analysts expect businesses will be reluctant to hire until they are convinced the economy is on a firm path to recovery. Many private economists, and the Federal Reserve, expect the unemployment rate to top 10 percent by the end of this year.

    If laid-off workers who have settled for part-time work or have given up looking for new jobs are included, the so-called underemployment rate reached 16.8 percent, the highest on records dating from 1994. That rate rose because the number of workers settling for part-time hours, either because their employer cut their work week or because that’s all they could find, increased by about 300,000.

    1.3 million to lose jobless benefits by year’s end

  38. eric  •  Sep 4, 2009 @4:13 pm

    It is OK everybody…despite the trillions wasted the White House has amnounced that this is a positive sign that they are “slowing down” the job losses. Memories…they have…”created or saved jobs”…no comments!
    Also, remember that this past months, thks to the “cash for clunkers for people who have a spare car meeting the requirements and the credit ratings allowing a loan for a new car”, many auto workers were re-hired…and will be let go again…

  39. eric  •  Sep 4, 2009 @4:16 pm

    Also: White House transparency finally happened after two law suits and visitors records will be released! Better late than never, OBObama came out to talk to us about his “transparent” administration….BUT…ALWAYS A BUT…EVERYTHING FRON HIS TAKING OFFICE TO NOW WILL NOT BE DISCLOSED…it is OK right? we are not interested in knowing who lobbied for the various bail outs and other health care trillion dollars fiascos…
    You libs, before praising the messiah for his transparency, are you going to wonder why not all the records? Or are you that dumb?

    “The records of visitors from the Jan. 20 start of Obama’s presidency through Sept. 15 will not be covered by the policy. Instead, the White House’s counsel office will respond to individual requests for records during that time, but only if those requests are deemed to be reasonable, narrow and specific.”

  40. George  •  Sep 5, 2009 @5:50 am

    Wally… I have noticed you have not provided a list of republicans…

    Benson… water-boarding is NOT illegal and it is NOT torture and even it was I don’t care about it done to terrorist!

    Mary… it figured. Why are San Franciscans so comfortable and proud of their ignorance?

    Wally, Mary W, Benson, SF Mary, Immanuel, Bill, Cara and Kenny… The law is the law… So I challenge each of you – yes or no, should obama, Bill Richardson, Barney Frank, Franklin Raines, Jim Johnson, Jamie Gorelick, Chris Dodd, Charlie Rangel, Kwame Kilpatrick, Dianne Wilkerson, Tom Daschle, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Rahm Emanuel, Evan Bayh… Bill Clinton and all the other democrats be investigated, prosecuted and jailed for ALL of their criminal conduct? A simple yes or no would do.

    Kenny… when was the last successful al-Qaida or terrorist attack on American soil? Guess what liberal call “so-called extreme torture” worked. :o

  41. Wally  •  Sep 6, 2009 @5:41 pm

    Mr. Torres, I found this for you although a little dated.

    Hastert staying; taking blame

    Dennis Hastert won’t step down as House speaker now or after the election, a senior GOP leadership aide told CNN today. Hastert will take responsibility for congressional page scandal. “The buck stops here. The safety and security of the students in the page program is imperative,” an earlier statement from the speaker said.

    One of the “Good Old Boys.” Protecting his power (and wealth) and his place in history. The congressman will take full responsibility but will not step down because he just does not have to. Who will make him? The congress, the Senate, President Bush, if anyone did Mr. Hastert might just open Pandora’s box exposing more corruption by many of “The Good Old Boys” that run this nation

    Mark Foley Elected by the people and for the people. To represent us to help us in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

    Wally

  42. Wally  •  Sep 6, 2009 @5:42 pm

    Time after time, newspapers expose apparent corruption in Congress. But it doesn’t get investigated — and especially not by the House Committee on Standards of Official Conduct, known as the ethics committee. Here are three examples from news reports:
    More for you George.

    House Republican Whip Roy Blunt of Missouri tried to insert a Philip Morris provision into a bill creating the Department of Homeland Security, at the request of tobacco lobbyist Abigail Perlman. Ms. Perlman, who is now Mr. Blunt’s wife, is head of government affairs for Altria Corp., the parent company of Philip Morris.
    House Financial Services Committee Chairman Michael G. Oxley, a Republican from Ohio, reportedly offered to relent on a congressional investigation if the Investment Company Institute hired a Republican as its top lobbyist.

    Wally

  43. George  •  Sep 7, 2009 @6:11 am

    Wally… good for you. You had to search pretty deep to get 3-4 examples of questionable or criminal conduct by republicans or conservatives. I have never said republicans or conservatives are without sin… bad apples are scattered about and I am sure if you dug more deeply you can list a few more examples… And I support the investigations, prosecutions or resignations of conservatives found guilty if that is the appropriate punishment for the crime… the point is liberals give democrats a pass on criminal conduct and protect the perps…

    Now compare your short list with the volumes of criminal and unethical conduct by democrats… you mentioned Mark Foley… what about Rep. Gary Studds (D-MA) who democrats condoned unethical and lewd conduct with young House pages or Queen Barney Frank (D-MA) and his roommate Stephen Gobie operation of a homosexual brothel in his basement or fixing parking tickets for Gobie.

    Here is few more - Abscam scandal; Sen. Harrison A. Williams (D-NJ), Rep John Jenrette (D-SC), Richard Kelly (R-FL), Raymond Lederer (D-PA), Michael Myers (D-PA), Frank Thompson (D-NJ) and Rep John Murphy (D-NY) were convicted of bribery and conspiracy. Rep. John Murtha (D-PA) escaped indictment.

    How about the House Banking scandal of predominantly democrats witht he worst violation Rep now Sen Boxer (D-CA) or Jimmy Carter’s brother Billy working for the Lybians… and of course the drunkard Teddy Kennedy murdering Mary Jo at Chappaquiddick

    Here are a few more Democrat criminal and unethical behavior; Hillary Clinton’s questionable hiring of Craig Livingstone, inside stock trading; Rep. Wilbur Mills and Sen Gary Hart unethical sexul conduct; Sen now VP Joseph Biden plagiarism; Sen Chuck Robb’s cocaine parties; Wash DC Mayor Marion Berry multiple convictions for trafficking narcotics; Bill Clinton multiple abuses of power, sexual misconduct, perjury, etc… Sandy Berger burglary in theft of gov’t documents…

    Now Wally, I could go on and on… but even you should get the point… don’t you? :o

  44. Enigma  •  Sep 7, 2009 @5:15 pm

    This article is actually in response to the recent VFG newsletter TAKING ANOTHER LOOK AT CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR authored by Dr. Lionel C.M. von Frederick Rawlins. I am posting here as I do not see a comment section relative to articles published in newsletter section for readers. The article was superbly written and absolutely fascinating. Group dynamic in operation - humanity at its worse. This reminds me of a comparison and analysis on the topic of Biological/Biosocial and Classical Theories of Crime study in graduate school. I enjoyed reviewing the disparity of theories and the discussion of crime control practices immensely.

    “The allegations are an embarrassment for the Obama administration, which is struggling to win hearts and minds in Afghanistan and the Muslim world in general. Controversy is continuing over the widespread use by the US of private contractors in war zones, of which the most notorious was Blackwater, now named Xe.”

    US embassy bans alcohol at guards’ quarters after claims of ‘lewd’ parties

    Inquiry into allegations that Kabul security staff engaged in drunken behaviour and sexual misconduct

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/sep/03/afghanistan-embassy-guards-inquiry

  45. Wally  •  Sep 7, 2009 @11:08 pm

    How about this Ggeorge? “Conservatives should not overlook Sarah Palin’s faults. As mayor of Wasilla, Palin went to her state’s senators, congressmen, and state legislators with hat in hand. She asked for earmarks to build sewers and shelters in her town. As governor, she originally supported Alaska’s controversial Bridge to Nowhere. She would finally scrap the bridge when conservatives nationally highlighted it in their indictment of congressional earmarking. It is highly unusual for mayors and governors to turn down federal money on principle when congressmen and senators are willing to provide it. But Palin’s late conversion to the cause might still disappoint some fiscal conservatives.

    Palin was also once accused of receiving two faxes in her city-hall office from the designer of a logo for her unsuccessful 2002 bid for lieutenant governor (of course, it is not really possible to block a fax). She was also accused of arranging a campaign trip from her city office, and of having an assistant take care of printing up her campaign Thank You notes while on the city clock”.

    Wally

  46. Wally  •  Sep 7, 2009 @11:13 pm

    More for you George. I know you do not research too much beyond the Fox Talking points, but here is some more research for you:

    Corrupt Republican Governors:

    California’s Arnold Schwarzenegger is so much bigger than other public figures that it takes a whole web site to cover his [immorality: AND corruption: http://www.ArnoldExposed.com
    [corruption:] Connecticut’s John Rowland resigned in disgrace and was sentenced to Federal prison after being convicted of corruption in 2004. Also involved with his crimes were the state Treasurer, Paul Sylvester, and Ben Andrews, the former longtime leader of the Connecticut chapter of the N.A.A.C.P., which shows why kind of African Americans become Republican politicians.
    [corruption:] Ohio’s Bob Taft III pleaded no contest in Aug. 2005 to charges that he violated state ethics laws, becoming the first governor in the state’s history to be convicted of a crime.
    [corruption:] Kentucky’s Ernie Fletcher indicted in job scandal in May, 2006. Like Republican Gov, of Arkansas, Fletcher was an ordained Baptist minister.
    [corruption:] Illinois George Ryan was found guilty by a federal jury of all 18 counts or bribery and corruption against him, ending an historic, marathon public corruption trial in April 2006, and he was sentenced in Sept. to 6 1/2 years in prison.

    ——————————————————————————–
    Corrupt state and local Republican politicos:
    [immorality:] Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. “Republican Marty”): used to demonstrate in front of the Capital in Tallahassee, FL, with large signs and banners, denouncing the “filthy morals” of Bill Clinton. Not long after Bill left office, Republican Marty was arrested for having extended, multiple sexual contacts between himself and two girls, aged 13-14, delivering the drug LSD. On the way to the Police Station, he keeled over dead in the Police car, after downing the contents of a bottle of drain cleaner.
    [corruption:] Former Alaska state Rep. Vic Kohring was convicted in Nov. 2007 on three of four counts of corruption for selling influence to Veco Corp. executives. A federal jury found him guilty of conspiracy, attempted extortion and bribery. [ http://www.adn.com/news/politics/fbi/kohring/story/9418965p-9335214c.html ]
    [corruption:] Former Speaker of the Alaska House, Pete Kott, was found guilty on three of the four charges brought against him. On December 7, 2007 he was sentenced to six years in prison
    [corruption:] Fomer Alaska Republican state Representative Vic Kohring was sentenced last week to 42 months in prison for taking bribes as part of a scheme to keep Alaska oil taxes down. In November 2007 a jury convicted Kohring of bribery, attempted extortion, and conspiracy for soliciting and receiving multiple cash payments from executives of VECO Corporation,
    [corruption:] Tom Anderson was convicted on seven counts of conspiracy and bribery on July 9th, 2007. On October 15th, he was sentenced to five years in prison.
    [corruption:] Ben Stevens, the son of extremely powerful U.S. Sen. Ted Stevens was appointed to the Alaska State Senate in August 2001, was the Majority Leader for the 2003-2004 term, and the President for the 2005-2006 term, and did not seek re-election in November 2006, when he was under investigation for corruption. Charges were still pending as of Nov. 2007. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Stevens.
    [immorality:] Republican California Assemblyman Steve Samuelian, who ran as a “conservative’s conservative” and is a married man, has been caught by police a second time (first time in1998) attempting to solicit sex from prostitutes in Fresno,California.
    [immorality:] Republican activist Randal David Ankeney, arrested on suspicion of sexual assault on a child with force. He faces 6 charges related to getting a 13-year-old girl stoned on pot and then having sex with her. Also accused of sexually assaulting another girl.
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    Gay sex scandal rocks Spokane
    By Chris McGann and Kathy Mulady
    Seattle Post-Intelligencer reporters
    Friday, May 6, 2005
    Spokane Mayor Jim West, who championed an anti-gay agenda during his tenure as one of the most powerful Republicans in the Legislature, admitted to using the trappings of his current office to entice what he thought was a young adult man, but denied allegations that he molested two young boys more than 20 years ago.
    West confirmed to The Spokesman-Review of Spokane that he offered gifts, favors and a City Hall internship during Internet chats with a man he believed was 18. The online pen pal was actually a forensic computer expert working for the newspaper. After the story hit the newsstands yesterday, West sent city staffers a remorseful e-mail. . .
    In more than 20 years in the Legislature, West had initiated legislation to outlaw sexual contact between consenting teenagers; supported a bill that would have barred gays and lesbians from working for schools, day care centers and some state agencies; voted to define marriage as a union between a man and a woman; and, as Senate majority leader, allowed a bill that would ban discrimination against gays and lesbians to die in committee without a hearing.
    As Spokane mayor, West threatened to veto a measure extending benefits to domestic partners of city employees.”
    [ from http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/223201_west06.html ]
    20 years earlier Spokane was rocked with a huge scandal in which a police officer and boy scout leader was under investigation for molesting a number of boys, but committed suicide before he could be prosecuted. At that time the very close partner of that man, as both police officer and boy scout leader, Jim West, was not suspected of wrong-doing. West went on to become a very conservative Republican legislator and then Mayor of Spokane.
    [ from http://www.spokesmanreview.com/jimwest/story.asp?ID=050505_westmain ]

    Wally

  47. Wally  •  Sep 7, 2009 @11:15 pm

    More on Republicans: Try to match this list of EVIL_DOERS.

    (Tom Noe is easy to confuse with the Congressman Bob Ney, also from Ohio, who pleaded guilty in the Jack Abramoff influence-peddling investigation, and resigned from Congress in the same year, 2006. Tom Noe was a very prominent Republican contributor and beneficiary of public benefits.)

    “Noe was found guilty of two theft counts, 18 forgery counts, four money laundering counts, four tampering with records counts, and one count of engaging in a pattern of corrupt activity, the most serious crime. . .
    The verdict marks the second time in less than two months that Noe was judged guilty.
    U.S. District Judge David Katz sentenced Noe to 27 months in prison on Sept. 12 for violating federal campaign finance law. Noe illegally poured more than $45,000 into the re-election campaign of President Bush in 2003.
    That same year Noe had secured a federal appointment as well: The Bush administration appointed him to the chairmanship of an important committee at the U.S. Mint.”

    ( Bush’s extremely narrow win in Ohio in 2004 is what made him President of the United States for another four years.)
    [ http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ article?AID=/20061114/NEWS02/611140364 ]

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    “G.O.P. Fundraiser Admits to Child Porn”
    Gets Probation in Case in Baltimore
    By Michael Laris
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    April 24, 2003
    “Republican activist Richard A. Delgaudio, a longtime Northern Virginia–based fundraiser for conservative causes and personalities, was sentenced to two years’ probation after pleading guilty to a child pornography charge. Delgaudio was charged with taking sexually explicit photographs of a 16-year-old girl. He paid the girl — a single mother and high school dropout — by the hour for photo shoots at the Deluxe Plaza Motel in Baltimore, according to court documents and Baltimore City Police Detective Randy Wynn, who investigated the case.”
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A27774-2003Apr23.html

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    “West Virginia state mining officials concluded Thursday that a fatal mine accident in January could have been prevented, placing blame on a huge coal company run by one of the country’s biggest Republican donors, Don Blankenship, the chairman, CEO and president of the Massey Energy Company of Richmond, Va.
    He has spent millions of dollars to promote Republican candidates and causes in this year’s election.
    The report on the fatal mine accident cites “168 notices of violations” in Massey Energy’s Aracoma Mine that led to the deaths of two miners, according to the investigation issued by the West Virginia Office of Miner’s Health, Safety and Training.
    The scathing report came just days before Tuesday’s election, in which Blankenship has played a major role.
    In September and October alone, Blankenship has spent $2,041,510 of his own money to place television commercials, billboards and newspaper advertisements on behalf of Republican candidates in West Virginia, according to state election records reviewed by ABC News.
    “Blankenship has a company that has killed people, hurts people and is using political power to try to line up friendly judges and a friendly legislature,” says Norm Steenstra, the executive director of the Mountain State Education and Research Foundation, a non-profit group that advocates campaign reform measures.
    Blankenship’s extraordinarily large expenditures are legal under West Virginia and federal election laws because the money is steered through a non-profit group he established, “And for the Sake of the Kids.”
    Blankenship has backed more than 40 candidates in this year’s election, almost all of whom are considered to be pro-business and in favor of revamping what is considered the state’s “plaintiff friendly” environment.”
    http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/11/mine_deaths

    Wally

  48. Wally  •  Sep 7, 2009 @11:17 pm

    Here are still more, that I missed, from armchairsubversive.com, George :

    [immorality:] Republican Commissioner ( of Richland County, Ohio ) David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
    [immorality:] Republican Speaker of the Puerto Rico House of Representatives, Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
    [immorality:] State Senator Paul Stanley (Tenn) who ran on family values had to resign in July, 2009 after being caught in a sexual relationship with a 22-year old legislative intern.
    [immorality:] Republican Committeeman John R. Curtain was charged with molesting a teenage boy and unlawful sexual contact with a minor.
    [immorality:] Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth anti-abortion activist who gained fame during the Schiavo media-circus, was convicted of two charges of raping a child in 2002 .
    [immorality:] An anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency, who was not likely a Democrat, pleaded guilty offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor and to possessing child pornography on his computer.
    [immorality:] Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.
    [immorality:] Republican pastor Mike Hintz,a First Assembly of God youth pastor whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.
    [immorality:] Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
    [immorality:] Republican advertising consultant Carey Lee Cramer was charged with molesting his 9-year old step-daughter after including her in an anti-Gore television commercial.
    [immorality:] Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
    [immorality:] Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter, the Susan Smith who drowned her adorable two sons “in cold blood” in a South Carolina lake in 1995.
    [immorality:] Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline was placed under house arrest for child molestation and possession of child pornography.
    [immorality:] Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
    [immorality:] Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.
    [immorality:] Republican anti-gay activist Earl “Butch” Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.
    [immorality:] Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
    [immorality:] Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.
    [immorality:] Republican Tennessee State Representative, Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children). He committed suicide before he could be prosecuted.
    [immorality:] Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was found guilty of molesting a 15-year old girl at the home for troubled girls that he ran.
    [immorality:] Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.
    [immorality:] Republican candidate Richard Gardner,a Nevada State Representative, admitted to molesting his two daughters.
    [immorality:] Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner had been convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl. when the Republican Party, knowing of these crimes, put him on the ballot.
    [immorality:] Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.
    [immorality:] Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.
    [immorality:] Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.
    [immorality:] Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.With his political career over, he went to work in the hard-core pornography industry for Platinum X Pictures, owned by his daughter, porn starlet Jewel De’Nyle (Stephany Schwarz).
    [immorality:] Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall,director of Faith & Family Alliance, (a Christian Coalition spin off), former student of Pat Robertson’s Regent University, member of Ralph Reed’s inner circle who funneled money to from lobbyist Jack Abramoff to Reed, was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.

    [corruption:] See LiberalsLikeChrist.Org/about/RalphReedGQ.html

    [immorality:] Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a “good military man” and “church goer,” was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.
    [immorality:] Republican director of the “Young Republican Federation” Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.
    [immorality:] Republican president of the New York City Housing Development Corp. Russell Harding pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer.
    [immorality:] Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women. He was found guilty of raping a 15-year old girl, and his sentences added up to 126 years in prison.
    [immorality:] Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins of Asbury Park, New Jersey plead guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.
    [immorality:] Mike Bowers Former State Attorney General, prosecuted the famous Bowers vs. Hardwick case, based on Georgia anti-sodomy laws. Admitted to a 10-year adulterous affair.
    [immorality:] John Fund, of the Wall Street Journal, a prominent anti-abortion columnist and GOP fund raiser. He lost his position after it was revealed that he impregnated the daughter of an old girlfriend and then encouraged her to abort his child.
    [immorality:] Jeff Gannon, Partisan blogger with no journalism credentials was allowed into Bush’s Press conferences using a fake name so that he could ask fake questions to which Bush could give fake answers. This phony reporter’s real name is James Guckert and his real job is gay prostitution.
    [immorality:] Dr. W. David Hager, Bush appointee, member of Focus on the Family’s Physician Resource Council, player in movement to ban the morning-after-pill. Had an adulterous affair, before divorcing his wife he sexually abused her, including sodomizing her in her sleep.
    [immorality:] John Hathaway, Republican Senate candidate, was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.
    [immorality:] John Paulk, lied about prowling for gay sex while running a fundamentalist group to cure gays.
    [immorality:] Harvey Pitt, SEC Chief under George W. Bush until he was forced to resign in 2002. Worked for New Frontier Media, a firm which distributed teen sex videos.
    [immorality:] Lou Beres, -Republican chairman of the Oregon Christian Coalition confessed to molesting a 13-year old girl.
    [immorality:] Tom Randall, Republican petition drive manager pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 14, one of them the daughter of an associate in the petition business.
    [immorality:] Jeffrey Ray Nielsen the well-connected Orange County California conservative activist who claimed the so-called liberal media was out to get him by publishing a series of exposés on his pedophile activities—finally admitted on Dec. 5, 2007 in open court that he had been using two boys for sex since the early 1990s. [ http://www.ocweekly.com/news/news/nielsens-plea-deal/28158/ ]
    [immorality:] Jim Stelling, Seminole County Republican Party chairman who believes in “family values”, as he told a judge, filed a defamation lawsuit against Nancy Goettman, a former county GOP executive committee member, for falsely claiming he had been married six times. Stelling has only been married five times.
    [immorality:] Matthew Glavin, president and CEO of the Southeastern Legal Foundation, big player in the Clinton Impeachment, and many anti-gay jihads, has been arrested multiple times for public indecency, one time fondling the crotch of the officer who was arresting him.
    Tony Krvaric, chair of the San Diego Republican Party and head of the California GOP’s Finance Committee, co-founded an international piracy ring known as Fairlight. Kvaric was appointed to head the California Republican Party budget committee by his mentor, party chairman Ron Nehring, who is himself a protégé of conservative strategist Grover Norquist. [ see http://rawstory.com/news/2008/San_Diego_GOP_chairman_Part_2_0430.html ].
    Dennis L. Rader, the BTK (bind torture & kill) serial killer was more than a run of the mill party member. He was Republican zoning supervisor in North Wichita, Kansas, as well as a Boy Scout leader, and the president of the Congregation Council of Christ Lutheran Church.
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    The outstanding reporter and web-publisher, Wayne Masden, took the novel approach of covering the nationwide Republican scandals state by state in this excellent table :

    Wayne Masden’s GOP Scandals Scorecard

    Instead of going to prison, Republican politicians become conservative gurus on Radio or TV:
    [corruption:] “1985: San Diego Mayor Roger Hedgecock resigned after he was convicted of one count of conspiracy and 12 counts of perjury. The charges stemmed from allegations that he financed his 1983 mayoral campaign with more than $300,000 funneled through a political consulting firm. Hedgecock was sentenced to a year in county custody, a fine and three years’ probation. After the state Supreme Court reversed the perjury convictions, Hedgecock made a deal with prosecutors. He pleaded guilty to the felony conspiracy count that was reduced to a misdemeanor and then dismissed in 1991. He served no time in jail.”
    [corruption:] Former 51-year-old Republican Carneys Point, N.J. Mayor John “Mack” Lake was found guilty this morning of two counts of bribery and one count of official misconduct, second-degree crimes that carry the presumption of a prison sentence of five to 10 years and fines up to $150,000, for trying to bribe an election opponent to drop out of last year’s township committee race.
    [corruption:] Gordon Liddy was one of those caught and convicted of breaking into the Watergate Offices, and rewarded with a radio talk show, and frequent TV appearances.
    [corruption:] Oliver North was nailed for wrong-doing in connection with Reagan’s selling arms to our enemies at the time, Iran, and then using the money to help the “Contras” in contravention to the law passed according the rules of the Constitution barring such aid. North too was rewarded like Liddy.
    The Ethics (Lack of) Republican Commentator George Will
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    The “Black” affair :

    The New York Times published an article, Friendship and Business Blur in the World of a Media Baron about the Englishman (Canadian?) Lord Conrad Black, who has paid huge sums of money to “consultants” for one or two day attendance at annual conferences he has hosted for years. “Mr. Will could not recall how many meetings he attended; an aide later confirmed that the per diem for each meeting was $25,000. . . Mr. Buckley estimated that he had earned perhaps $200,000 or more. ”
    Yet “honest Abe” Buckley wrote, in a letter to the New York Times defending Black : “You are entitled to ask how I presume to write with ostensible authority. I write because I have known Conrad Black for 15 years.” And Buckley concludes: “Since your mind inclines in that direction, hear this: he (Lord Black) has never donated a nickel to any of my enterprises.”

    [ http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/04/01/Conrad_Black_4.html ]

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    In contrast to the vast majority of African American leaders who view today’s Republican Party as inimical to the interests of the the vast majority of African Americans, there are a few exceptions. Some of these may be sincere, but here are others who have turned out to be shameful black Republican leaders.

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    [immorality:] Bill Bennett (G.O.P. “Morality Czar”) slate.msn.com/id/2082526/
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    Wally

  49. Wally  •  Sep 7, 2009 @11:20 pm

    Want more George? You asked for it:

    The G.O.P. “Hall of Shame”
    [immorality:] Most cases are detailed in: Stanley Hilton and Anne-Renee Testa’s new bipartisan field guide from St. Martin’s, Glass Houses: Shocking Profiles of Congressional Sex Scandals and Other Unofficial Misconduct; the Los Angeles Times; and the Washington Post.

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    Immoral Leaders of the “Religious Right” are numerous enough to earn a page of their own on
    Blind Leaders of the Religious Right:
    http://www.LiberalsLikeChrist.Org/BlindLeaders
    For the sources of many of the above scandals, check out http://www.dkosopedia.com/wiki/Examples_of_Republican_hypocrisy_on_moral_values
    See a whole page of the LATEST Republican corruption (2007)|.

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    For much, much more about the connections of the whole Republican Party with the Nazis of Europe before, during and after World War II, to this day, see http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/noon.html.

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    For the residence of particular states, there are some excellent blogs which document the corruption of Republicans within their own state, such as the outstanding
    Connecticut’s Worst Republican legislators.

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    In response to an ignorant defender of Republicans, who wrote to criticize my support of Democrats over Republicans on the morality front, I did a little research and sent her this response based on what I found :
    “My dear Jane,
    You are so uninformed, that it is scary! You say that “Judging by the low morals of Democrats (as demonstrated by the devotion to libs shown by the degenerate Hollywood crowd), I’m sure there is plenty of dirt to dig up on Democrats.”
    Which party thinks so highly of “the degenerate Hollywood crowd” that it selects them to run for and to fill high offices on its behalf?
    Where did your “holier than thou” Republican Party recruit Ronald Reagan to run for governor of the most populous state in the country and then president?
    Where did your “holier than thou” Republican Party recruit Arnold Schwarzenegger to run for governor of the most populous state in the country, California?
    Where did your “holier than thou” Republican Party recruit Fred Thompson for the U.S. Senate and then for the U.S. Presidency?
    Where did your “holier than thou” Republican Party recruit George Murphy U.S. Senator from California from 1965 to 1971? The answer is Hollywood. He was an actor, dancer and former president of the Screen Actors Guild.
    Where did your “holier than thou” Republican Party recruit Sonny Bono( and now his wife) for Congress ?
    Where did your “holier than thou” Republican Party recruit Clint Eastwoodto run for mayor of Carmel-by-the-Sea, California?
    Where did your “holier than thou” Republican Party recruit Fred Grandy (Love Boat’s “Gopher”) for Congress ?
    Where did your “holier than thou” Republican Party recruit Shirley Temple (Black) to be a U.S. ambassador to Ghana. (She was obviously qualified to represent the U.S. in a black African nation, because she was married to a guy named “Black”).
    Where did your “holier than thou” Republican Party recruit Charlton Heston to lead its powerful lobbying group, the National Riffle Assoc., if not Hollywood?

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    In contrast to the Greedy Old Party, the only Hollywood actors the Democratic Party has tapped to run for high office on their behalf, have been:
    Nancy Culp – (U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania), who was best known as Miss Hathaway from “The Beverly Hillbillies”.
    Ben Jones – (U.S. Representative from Georgia from 1989-1993 before losing to Newt Gingrich) who was best known as Cooter Davenport from “The Dukes of Hazzard”.
    Sheila Kuehl – (A California state senator) who many years previously had been a child actor on “The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis”
    Ralph Waite – (U.S. Representative from California) who was best known as the father from the TV show, “The Waltons”.
    Helen Gahagan Douglas – (U.S. Representative from California for three terms until 1950 when she ran for the U.S. Senate and lost against Richard Nixon). She was a broadway actress who made just one Hollywood movie before going into New deal politics.
    Jerry Springer was in show biz, but not Hollywood, and that was after he had served as the Democratic mayor of Cincinnati.

    Wally

  50. Wally  •  Sep 7, 2009 @11:22 pm

    You give up George?

    – Ann Coulter, nationally syndicated conservative spokeswoman:

    Right-wing pundit Ann Coulter titled her August 30 syndicated column on the Rhode Island Senate race: “They Shot the Wrong Lincoln.” The headline is a reference to Sen. Lincoln Chafee (R-RI), whom she excoriated throughout the piece — calling him a “half-wit” and a “silver-spooned moron” — while expressing her support for his challenger in the September 12 Republican primary, Stephen Laffey. This is not the first time Coulter has alluded to killing those she disagrees with:
    Commenting on radio host Melanie Morgan’s assertion that, if New York Times executive editor Bill Keller were convicted of treason, she “would have no problem with him being sent to the gas chamber,” Coulter said, “I prefer a firing squad, but I’m open to a debate on the method of execution.” She later suggested that (other) Times staff members should be “executed.”
    Coulter said of the suggestion that media had been hurt by the military: “Would that it were so! . . . that the American military were targeting journalists.”
    Coulter suggested that Rep. John P. Murtha (D-PA) is “the reason soldiers invented fragging,” — military slang meaning the intentional killing of a member of one’s own unit.
    Coulter argued that the national debate during the Monica Lewinsky controversy should not have focused on whether former President Bill Clinton “did it,” but rather “whether to impeach or assassinate” him.
    Coulter said of Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens: “We need somebody to put rat poison in Justice Stevens’ crème brulée.”
    commenting on the young American who fought with the Taliban, in her address at the “conservative Political Action Conference” (CPAC) in 2002 : “When contemplating college liberals, you really regret once again that John Walker is not getting the death penalty. We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed too. Otherwise they will turn out to be outright traitors.”
    ( Coulter would obviously like to be among those doing the killing of college liberals. But she is totally oblivious of the fact that the Taliban which Walker joined are ultra-conservatives who hate the United States for being such a symbol of liberalism! I trust that she is likewise ignorant of the fact that John (whose last name is Lindh, and whose middle name is the same as George W. Bush’s), joined the Taliban at the very time the the U. S. A. had given the Taliban government of Afghanistan 43 million dollars. If John Lindh was an enemy of the U.S. for helping the Taliban at that time, then so was George W. Bush. Thank Mammon for “Christians” like Coulter! When asked where she worshipped, Coulter answered “Redeemer Presbyterian Church”, in Manhattan. Funny, but the membership secretary of that church has no knowledge of Ann Coulter EVER having attended her church! conservative “Christians”, however, view Ms. Coulter as an authority on Christianity.)
    Also, check out this excellent exposé of Ann Coulter .
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    Here’s the best exposé on David Horowitz that I know of.
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    and Answers to Republican propagandists like Sean Hannity’s and Bill O’Reilly :
    http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=91585 &
    SeanHannityEvildoer.com & BillOReillyConman.com

    When Republicans say they aren’t truly trying to get rid of Social Security, along with the rest of the New Deal, ask them what their flamboyant spokeswoman meant when she said, “I think we had enough laws about the turn-of-the-century (1901). We don’t need any more.” Asked how far back would she go to repeal laws, she replied, “Well, before the New Deal. . . would be a good start.” – Politically Incorrect May 7, 1997
    [ F.D.R.'s fascist enemies surely didn't have Jesus in mind when they referred to his "New Deal" as "the Jew Deal", but perhaps there was more truth in that name than they knew, since the "New Testament" is just another way of saying "New Deal"]. and
    “It would be a much better country if women did not vote”.
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    “Should any political party attempt to abolish Social Security, Unemployment Insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are [a] few other Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or business man from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid.”
    - President Dwight D. Eisenhower, 11/8/54
    [ a “quote of the year” dug up by David Sirota, Air America talk show host.

    Wally

  51. Hugh  •  Sep 7, 2009 @11:27 pm

    Eric, despite the dangers of terrorism against the United States, it is admirable how America strives to uphold its constitutional laws—something other countries would not do. While some Americans may think this criminal investigation of alledged CIA detainees abuse is a political stunt on the part of the Attorney General, it clearly shows that we are a civilized nation when we enforce our constitutional laws. As Americans, we should be proud of our country and who we are. This may not earn us the admiration of enemies who are bent on attacking us at any time, it will show that we are a country of laws, and not of anybody’s opinion.

    Hugh

  52. Ryan  •  Sep 7, 2009 @11:29 pm

    The Obama Administration’s bumbling efforts at maintaining a coherent national intelligence system will lead to the danger of future attacks by Muslim extremists, no doubt.

    Ryan

  53. Norica Simpson  •  Sep 7, 2009 @11:32 pm

    Eric, you trying to defend George only make you look more of an idiot. It is simple. This is more cleanup left by the Bush administration. The CIA under the dictatorship of Bush and Cheney were being directed to break laws and keep it a secret. I understand security issues and national security being secretive, but this was not just keeping secrets, this was lying and deciet on purpose, or for a purpose of making Bush / Cheney look like such great protectors of America. Ask Tom Ridge why he left as homeland security guru. He couldn’t stand the lies and deciet being asked of him. He wasn’t going to lower himself as much as Cheney wanted him too. They should all be in jail. Eye for an eye? 3000 + dead at the WTC. Over a 100,000 dead in Iraq and Afghanistan. What a legacy to leave. History will not look kindly on this time. We are at a low point in history. We need a good asteroid hit to wake everyone up that we are minute compared to the rest of the universe. Maybe it’s the insects turn to rule for awhile. We sure have made a mess of the planet all the way around.

    Norica Simpson
    Athens, Georgia

  54. June  •  Sep 7, 2009 @11:34 pm

    George, we’ve returned full tilt to Sept 10′th, 2001 mentality and if we get hit again because of this inept bunch at the helm, my hope is that they get tried for treason against the United States. The CIA, NSA and FBI deserve our thanks for what they did to protect us and this set of idiots running the country is now making it impossible to protect that very same country. It is a complete crime and a deep view into the real agenda of this team… to leave the country unprotected and vulnerable.

    June Athurton

  55. HydePark  •  Sep 7, 2009 @11:36 pm

    First of all, these men and women in the cia do a job that only 1 in about every 10000 Americans would dare to do. Today, when America calls for its men and women to stand up and defend her, it falls,for the most part, on deaf ears. Would you not do what is needed to get the information that would save the lives of your children? Your friends and family? I bet some of you would go even further that what some of these men did. The only crime that these men are accountable for is loving their country, enough to put their lives on the line for it. In return for their service these men face years in a US prison, politicians need to stop preventing our servicemen from doing their job. Our country needs to show strength now more than ever because of the terrorists threatening our borders, one way to show strength Mr. Attorney General is to not have internal witch hunts within our government.

    HydePark

  56. Cassy  •  Sep 7, 2009 @11:38 pm

    Not so, Eric. From what I have read there are now too many Intelligence Services. Another new one was just opened. The CIA has been involved in some very sticky situations. I would at this point include RFK, JFK, and MLK Jr. After I read Russ Bakers book about the Bush Administration the hair on the back of my head stood up. I would suggest our leaders incorporate the clean and very qualified people into the new agency and let the rest go. CIA is too close to the Republican Party. Let’s face it Nixon, Bush, Reagan and Bush Jr all used the CIA illegally. Nixon, and Reagan got caught red handed. Nixon used CIA people in Watergate. Reagan in Contra scandle. Bush Sr was CIA all his grown up life. Bush Jr used and abused the CIA to do his bidding and under Cheney’s direction violated the rules of the world and our Constitution. Panneta should start asking or looking for another job.

    Cassy

  57. Noodle Soup  •  Sep 7, 2009 @11:39 pm

    Ronnie sign off on against torture: Reagan vigorously championed U.S. ratification of the international Convention Against Torture, which he signed in 1988. This treaty is the primary international foundation of anti-torture law, and Reagan acclaimed its having marked “a significant step in the development … of international measures against torture and other inhuman treatment or punishment.”Remember the All those Marines that were killed by Arab terrorist under his watch?

    Noodle Soup

  58. Suze Olevechia  •  Sep 7, 2009 @11:43 pm

    Eric, I am not getting you and your point. Consider tyhis: As used in this chapter—(1) “torture” means an act committed by a person acting under the color of law specifically intended to inflict severe physical or mental pain or suffering (other than pain or suffering incidental to lawful sanctions) upon another person within his custody or physical control;(2) “severe mental pain or suffering” means the prolonged mental harm caused by or resulting from—(A) the intentional infliction or threatened infliction of severe physical pain or suffering;(B) the administration or application, or threatened administration or application, of mind-altering substances or other procedures calculated to disrupt profoundly the senses or the personality;(C) the threat of imminent death; or(D) the threat that another person will imminently be subjected to death, severe physical pain or suffering, or the administration or application of mind-altering substances or other procedures calculated to disrupt profoundly the senses or personality; and(3) “United States” means the several States of the United States, the District of Columbia, and the commonwealths, territories, and possessions of the United States.——————————————————————————————————Threatening with a drill is torture, Threatening to kill a family member is torture…..

    Suze Olevechia
    Greece

  59. eric  •  Sep 8, 2009 @6:11 pm

    My point is that if you did not sign the convention nor follow the rules of war you cannot claim protection from it. It is a whole package and you cannot pick and chose what you want. Fight like a combattant according to the rule of war, and if captured, yuou should be treated as the convention says it. If not, you are right to point fingers and demand it.

    This is called assymetric warfare: oje party is held to higher standards that the other…the affirmative action of warfare…the “weakest” party can get away with terror, attack on non-armed civilians, chopping heads onf live prisoners, dragging and mutilating bodies, etc…without any complaint from you heart bleeding from both parties!

    There is a name for you guys: VICTIMS!

    Why don’t you go to Iraq, Somalia or Afghanistan and tell them to follow the convention? oooops…safer to tell your gov in a Democratic society….your anti CIA rant would be on YOUTUBE BUT WITHOUT YOUR BLOOD SPILLING ALL OVER..WHILE OUR SOLDIERS DIE VICTIMS OF OUR MORALLY CORRECT RULES OF ENGAGEMENT IMPOSED BY POLL DRIVEN POLITICIANS THAT MICROO MANAGE CONFLICTS!.

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